Tuesday, 08 July 2008

  • Why I will Never Date a White Guy: Asian Girl/White Guy Not for Me.

    ** Disclaimer:  This might offend some people.  And if it DOES offend you, I probably wouldn’t like you anyway.  So in the words of the illustrious Tupac, “I don’t give a f**k.”  Read at your own risk.

     

     

    Last week at work, a white male co-worker was shocked when I told him that I prefer dating Korean/Asian men.  When I then pointed out that all my ex-boyfriends have been Korean, he was literally stunned (edit - this was the same coworker who told me that he thought this socially awkward geek we know in the office would end up w/an asian girl since so many of us are so desperate to date white...he then stated that he can say this to me because I clearly do not fall in that category).

     

    STUNNED.  He acted as though I had made a huge sacrifice by forgoing the opportunity to be with a white guy, also known as “God’s gift to women” in his eyes (gag me now). 

     

    Little did I know that my nonchalant, casual comment would soon spread like wildfire.  I had people coming up to me (both men and women) saying, “Is it really true that you only date Asian guys?”  They treated my casual comment on my dating preference as a true shocker of the year.  In my humble opinion, there is no way that such a reaction (shock, stunned, surprised, etc) would have occurred if I were, say Jewish or Black, and said that I preferred Jewish or Black men.  So why is it such a shocker that I, as an Asian woman, would prefer dating an Asian man?  Because this country has had a long (and I mean LONG) history of desexualizing and trivializing Asian men to the point that the masses just accept these stereotypes as being true.  Let’s face it – Asian guys do have it a lot harder in this country than Asian women.  Asian women have a history of being portrayed and seen as the sweet, submissive, Me-Love-You-Long- Time girl.  And on the flip side, we have been viewed as being overly sexual for the white man’s pleasure (again, gag me now). 

     

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    Hollywood stereotypes stemming from characters like Long Duck Dong in  Sixteen Candles have caused irreparable harm to the image of an Asian guy in this country (F**k you, John Hughes). 

     

    ldd     long-duk-dong

     

     

    While white men were the white knight, capable of saving the day AND getting the girl, the Asian guy was just the chump or the one-dimensional moron incapable of being attractive.   

     

    However, growing up in a heavily Asian populated city, I always had Korean/Asian friends.  I socialized with them, watched Korean dramas and idolized Korean boybands.  In other words, I had an ALTERNATIVE viewpoint from Hollywood and the white man’s land that showed me that Asian men CAN be sexy, gallant, generous, talented, multifaceted and complex.  My alternative media showed me different portrayals of Korean/Asian men not shown in America, which allowed me to not buy into the stereotypes and ridiculous bullshit that was being sold. 

     

    hi What you looking at?

     

     

    However, I have noticed that some Asian women DO buy into that shit.  And it’s both sad and irritating.  While I have nothing against two random people falling in love by chance (Asian/White/Black/Whatever), I DO think it’s pathetic and lame when an Asian American woman proclaims, “I only date white men” or “I don’t date Asian guys.”  Not only do I think it’s pathetic, I think they sound pathetic and just really, really stupid.  Then when you ask these women why, they list a bunch of reasons that sounds more like it came from Hollywood Stereotypes 101 (unintentionally affirming that yes, they really ARE that stupid).  Edit - Discriminating against YOUR OWN race is pathetic because it makes you a self-loathing person.  To want to date someone who SHARES your background, race, religion, etc. is NOT the same as excluding those who do.  (So to the people calling me hypocritical, get a fucking clue.  Thank you.)

     

    The truth is, one of the reasons I would never want to date a white guy because I would never want to be perceived by the outside world as being THAT girl (THAT girl has the attributes that I am strongly against and would NEVER want to be associated with.  Yes, these are the girls that make me want to vomit).  Yes, I will sound like a bitch but fuck it, let me be honest - while THAT GIRL tends to mistakenly flaunt being with a white guy,  I wouldn’t want to walk with my white boyfriend in public for fear of looking like THAT girl. The thought of having anything in common with girls that make me want to vomit is not okay with me. Moreover, I don’t want to be a seen as someone who bought into the bullshit that white media have been trying to sell about Asian guys for decades. 

     

    NONE of my friends are THAT GIRL.  In fact, in our circle, being THAT GIRL meant you couldn't get an Asian guy to like you anyway.  Sad. 

     

     One of my biggest fears is looking like this idiot:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ft_kY5KgCnE

    Truth is, I feel sorry for women like that.  I am personally not friends with women like that nor do I want to be.  I think that they are an embarrassment.  To stereotype and demean people who share your racial background is a travesty and clearly, they suffer from low self esteem or self-hatred of some sort. 

     

    Seriously, readers, what sucks more? Racist idiots or the self-loathing folks so desperate to sell out their own people and culture for white approval?  Hmmm…tough call, ain’t it?  (I choose the latter). 

     

    Let’s not forget that (in my own experience), the white guys who ARE into Asian girls tend to be Creepy.  Weird.  Losers.  Weird.  Dorks. And Weird.  Personally, a cool white guy has never approached me because these objectively cool white guys have plenty of options (mostly other cool white women).  They don’t need to look outside their own dating pool to dip into some Suzie-Wong- Me-Love –You-Long-Time action.  And if I hear “I once dated an Asian girl” come out of another white guy’s mouth as his opening line, I just might punch him.    So if my choice is between some weird, creepy, stereotype-clutching white guy or holding out for my Asian prince (see below, Mr. Coffee Prince, July 4, haha), I will hold out for my prince any day of the week. 

     

    And of course there’s the convenience factors – a Korean/Asian guy is more likely to understand my own struggles as a minority in the industry and in this country; we will likely enjoy eating the same foods (even if it’s kimchee everyday); and hopefully, he will be able to communicate with my parents and the rest of my family… at the very least, understand what they are saying OR implicitly understand the cultural values that are almost innate to us. 

     

    Plus, I am attracted to Asian guys...and no, NOT LONG DUCK DONG. 

     

    ** Note:  I have nothing against interracial dating...but it is just not for me.  Furthermore, these rules don't apply to Asian men who score non-Asian women.  Kudos to them for finding someone who isn't blindly following the definition of what an Asian man is "supposed to be." 

     

     

    ****EDIT/UPDATE:   Wow over 1,000 comments.  To quote one reader, this entry is becoming epic.  I haven't had time to read all of your comments but from what I have read, many of you were either sloppy with your reading or didn't bother reading all of it before jumping the gun.   

     

    http://weblog.xanga.com/somekoreanchick/669931927/let-me-clarify-the-white-guy-post.html

     

    ^ Please read that and

     

    http://weblog.xanga.com/somekoreanchick/670719279/for-the-last-f--time.html

     

    before you even attempt to put me on blast.  Or you will just look stupid.

     

    Thanks to all the supporters (there were many, many, many of you, hee) who apparently knew how to read English and understood what I was talking about.

    Peace!

     

     

     

Comments (1483)

  • jayyz

    Haha.  Great entry.  Would you only date Korean guys or as long as they're Asian, you have no problem?  My parents would give me a hard time if I dated someone outside my race. 

  • npr32486

    Being adopted and growing up in a white community, I certainly feel disconnected from other Asians.  But I agree, I really want to get in touch w/ my Asian roots, and I have seen how horrible white people can be at stereotyping others.  

  • EYLive

    I agree. Excellent work, miss.

  • cpeteryu

    okay.

    You get kudos propz, I have believed that way for soo long. Because of hollywood, asian males are at the bottom of the social ladder. We don't realize how good we are until we land a hot chick from asia. (in my case my ex)

    Since ur in hollywood (?) any way you can help make a difference? More movies like harold & kumar at the least? We need some asians kissing on the big screen!!

  • nanumus

    wow, a dim-witted counterpart of bobby lee. 

  • buzzybee79

    THANK YOU!  This was such a great post.  I also get so many creepy/weird white guys asking me out assuming that I will jump their bones just because I am an asian girl - I find the Asian
    fetish to be  insulting and rude and the girls who actually milk that to be
    embarrassing.  Not sure how Bobby Lee acts but Long Duk Dong was horrible. To this
    day, I cannot watch that movie.  Sharing this entry with my friends.  

  • somekoreanchick

    @jayyz - Korean is great because every ethnicity has its own culture but I like all Asian guys.  A lot of my Korean girl friends date Taiwanese guys or Japanese guys as well.   One of my best guy friends is Chinese and obviously, he "gets it" more than a white guy would (to be frank). 

  • wicked_innocence

    SO true on the creepiness of White guys that are into Asian girls. Why can't they just talk to us like we're normal...better yet, like THEY'RE normal?! 

  • zhaoyun1122

    love this entry! lol!
    could it be that asian men have such small ............. confidence?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOyRWuklsiQ

    lol

  • JJBae

    Do you know any Korean yujahs in Dallas with your same mind set? Hehe, nice post.

  • the_house_husband

    lol kudos for not contributing further to the shortage of asian females =P (i think there's a 52:48 m:f ratio overall for China, so at least 4% of the general population, or 8% of the male population will never get married -_-')

  • TheKiwiIntoxication

    omg, esther ku pisses me the fuck off

  • TheKiwiIntoxication

    although I just realized something, a lot of korean girls have the name esther!
    I wonder why.

  • anonymous

    nice to see some asian women havent jumped ship into the while mans boat :D

  • LiLBro3

    you are able to bring a good perspective! thank you for making such a great entry!

  • LiLBro3

    and yeah,i do feel as if it is harder for the asian guys to make a date with a girl. EVERY one i know portray me as the little brother, cause im that kind of type of person who is shy and helps people. yes.. its hard trying to ask a girl out when ur in that role :sigh:

  • goldentee27

    It troubles me that everyone thinks white people are racist, when there actually the least racist people on the planet, examples, no white entertainment network or caucausian channel, I can actually go on and on but I won't. People are always hating on white people simply because of hollywood. Asians are always at clinique cosmetiques trying to lighting there skin and trying to be more white, Heck bleeching skin is a billion dollar industry, WHY??? I'm not saying that everyone whats to be white or light skinned but facts are facts based on wide scale.


    I hate when I read someones post on the net and they are meta-stereotyping based on a handful of experiences. I'm a mixed race and I've had bad experiences with blonds doens't mean I won't date a blond again. This post is not directed at anyone specifically but people that have hate in there eyes for others. I except those who only want to be themselves and nobody else. People should just fall in love and not nessarily target their own race or another.


    As far as the asian issue, I don't see how you have any when there are so many of you on this planet, maybe you just don't got skill son, lol


    Oh and another thing, why is it that white guys are going for asian girls, is the asian girl really that innocent. I don't know where you guys live because if you live in Canada like I do, you will see that the asian girls are hot for the white guy. Asian people are not the victim, nobody is, but you guys are talking like they are. 


    Don't get me wrong, I know what your talking about when the white guy goes for the asian girl, it only makes me laugh when he's old and fat and she's young, skinny and ugly.


    I used to never think about race until some racist bastard asked me where my daddy and mommy were from because he wanted to kill all of us.


    p.s. half white, half asian girls are freakin' HOT


  • ric2

    Worse case :

    asian women being with a closet racist turd and she defends him but making excuses and trying to rationalize his behavior and values

  • somekoreanchick

    @goldentee27 - 1.  White people are definitely not the least racist people.  History alone proves that.


    2.  White Entertainment Network?  are you kidding me?  What exactly would you call CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, etc?  BET was made to support the black community and give a voice to black people because of the historical oppression and stereotypes that were perpetuated by mainstream media.


    3. Never said Asian girls who specifically go for white guys were innocent.  in fact, i specifically called them out and said it was sad and pathetic to discriminate against your own people.


    4.  This entry was made to point out HOW asian guys have been discriminated and marginalized by mainstream media, both currently and historically.  I am an asian WOMAN who just happens to not buy into the stereotyping of these men that were designed specifically for the intention of belittling them.


    5.  Have a nice day.

  • anonymous

    Best blog I've read all year.  Thank you for the breath of fresh air. 

  • somekoreanchick

    @bigdee - Thank you!  Much appreciated :)

  • indiana333

    assuming that any comments made by an asian person are not obviously grossly overblown- it's difficult for me to understand how someone not of asian descent can take issue with something in which he/she has no personal perspective 

  • anonymous

    A great read!  Let the truth be known~  Thank you!

  • Kai34

    nice post.

    the worst are the self-loathing folk.  before that girl on youtube, there was margaret cho.  i think she was on in living color or something?  man, i wanted punch her in the face.  what's so funny about tearing yourself down? 

    i thought it was just a fringe thing but i've been meeting a lot of asian-americans that are like this.  a lot of them are girls too (or maybe i'm not paying attention.  as a straight guy, who cares what the guys think.  heh).  it's nice to hear the voice of sanity.

  • lilmisspedicure

    in my hometown all the asian guys are asses. they talk smack about me and even judging my figure.  Just cuz I'm wearing a big t-shirt and they think i'm fat! Ppl who don't know me personally talk crap about me!  That's why I would date white guys and kept my life low-profile. Then I met my first asian boyfriend and his co-worker talking crap about me. As asian every other asian would talk crap about everyone! But as far as dating I haven't met any white guys that I would marry.  But I don't mind dating them. I've met a fair cheap ass ones. Didn't last too long.  But as far as marrying I would marry an asian man.  My first asain boyfriend he didn't all the works! He cooks, he cleans and fed me when I'm not eating since I was so hooked up on this online game.  He keeps checking up on me and stop what he was doing and came on and fed me while I was playing games.  As far as romantic he wasn't!  I've always been romantic and he seriously lacked it. White guys are more romantic to me. Or at least the ones that I've met! But it all deeps on the chemistry!  All guys are different as a person. Some are better and some are worst. I guess you just have to met the right guys.  I've dated a some chinese and they can be an ass and try to get in my pants on the first date!  It just depends on what type of person they are! I try to keep an open mind!

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